Joining the Warders: Two Handed, Crossbow & Warder's Armor

Q: How do I become a Guard?

First “Admission to the Old Camp” with Diego (Ch. 1), then “Joining the Warders” with Thorus (Ch. 3).

Q: How do I join the Old Camp?

Speak to Diego: With “Admission to the Old Camp” (Ch. 1) you become a Shadow. These tasks count towards it: Test of Faith, Out of Sight, A New Fence for Fisk, The Vanished Warder, A Ring for Fingers, and The Cult's Recipe.

Q: Who teaches Two Handed in the Old Camp?

Thorus (Two Handed 1–2, 70 LP · 500 ore). Thorus teaches Two Handed only once you can do One Handed 2.

Q: Why won't Thorus teach me Two Handed?

Thorus teaches Two Handed only once you can do One Handed 2.

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„The Old Camp seems powerful and well organized. If I want protection and influence in the Colony, this could be the right place to start.“
Quest Log „Admission to the Old Camp”

You become a Warder in two steps: First Gomez admits you as a Shadow to the Old Camp (Ch. 1), then Thorus makes you a Warder (Ch. 3).

In short

Two quests are mandatory: Admission to the Old Camp (Ch. 1) and Joining the Warders (Ch. 3).
First learn One Handed (Level 1) from Scatty. Thorus teaches Two Handed only when you can One Handed 2. Stone teaches Two-Hand Smithing only when you can One-Hand Smithing.
Our suggestion for the end: Warder's Armor in full upgrade and the Revenge Steel. You don't learn Circles of Magic as a Warder – the Mages teach them only to their own guild.

What you should pay attention to

You don't learn Circles of Magic as a Warder – the Mages teach them only to their own guild. The preliminary stage Novice Magician is taught to you by Torrez after „The Price of Magic“ so you can cast fire arrow or healing. This only works until Chapter 3: In „Flames to the Flood” Torrez dies. Spell scrolls don't need a circle. We don't recommend this as a path: Up to Level 15 the Warder needs every learning point for Strength and weapon skills. If you'd rather become a Fire Mage instead: That also works via the Old Camp, but you have to proceed differently there. Corristo teaches Circles 1–4 until Chapter 3 only to Fire Mages (total 70 LP).
Thorus teaches Two Handed only when you can One Handed 2.
Thorus teaches Two Handed only until Chapter 3.
Scatty teaches One Handed only until Chapter 3.
Thorus teaches Strength only for Warders.
Stone doesn't teach Two-Hand Smithing as long as Between a Rock and a Hard Place is running.
Stone teaches Two-Hand Smithing only when you can One-Hand Smithing.

According to game code, patch 1.0.5.

How you become a Warder: your path chapter by chapter

Every chapter has the same structure: first your goal (level and status), then what you must do, what you learn, your equipment – and what's worth doing additionally.

Chapter 1
Becoming a Shadow

Mandatory: Admission to the Old Camp · Learn: One Handed, Strength · Armor: Shadow's Dress
Your goal in this chapter

Level 5 (7.500 experience) – Gomez will only recruit you after that. Until then, the quests in this chapter grant you 2.050 experience, plus what you get from combat.

This is where you'll stand · One Handed only, 10 learning points per level

Calculated is first Strength up to 100, then the skills: weapons require a minimum value in Strength, and you cannot wield them below that. The skills under “What you learn” you learn as soon as learning points are available for them.

Level 5

Chapter 1–2 · Gomez recruits you from level 5 onwards

Learning points

50 of 50 LP: Strength 60

Weapon

Executioner65 damage · against Scorpio

Wolf

1 hits until he falls

Withstands

no hits from the Shadow Beast · 100 HP

What you must do

Step 1 · Mandatory · Chapter 1
Admission to the Old Camp

with Diego, Shadow

Gomez will only recruit you from level 5 onwards (7.500 experience).

What counts for admission

Test of Faith Out of Sight A New Fence for Fisk The Vanished Warder A Ring for Fingers The Cult's Recipe

Where you need to go

Diego stands guard all day.

Old Camp
Diego at 12 o'clock

World Map
Diego on the world map

Everything about Diego ↗

Diego in the outer ring of the Old Camp, behind it huts and the palisade

The tasks for admission

counts toward recruitment
Test of Faith

Quest giver: Diego

Chapter 1 · 750 XP

Bonus points with Diego for admission to the Old Camp.

counts toward recruitment
Out of Sight

Quest giver: Thorus

Chapter 1 · 750 XP

Thorus casts his vote for admission to the Old Camp.

counts toward recruitment
A New Fence for Fisk

Quest giver: Fisk

Chapter 1 · 300 XP

Fisk's voice for Admission to the Old Camp.

counts toward recruitment
The Vanished Warder

Quest giver: Sly

Chapter 1 · 250 XP

Sly's endorsement for Joining the Shadow.
What you learn
- Recommendation One Handed (Level 1) at Scatty 10 LP · 50 ore
- Recommendation Strength (+1 / +5) at Diego 1 LP per point
Your equipment

Shadow's Dress from “Admission to the Old Camp” Blade 10 · Blunt 10 · Pierce 0
Executioner 65 Damage · Strength 53 Buy from Scorpio (Old Camp)

Butcher 64 Damage · Strength 51 Buy from Scorpio (Old Camp)

Warder's Hand 59 Damage · Strength 49 Buy from Scorpio (Old Camp)

The strongest one-handed weapons you can wield at this chapter's minimum level (level 5: Strength 60) and which a merchant is sure to sell in this chapter. Found items and chests don't count here – there's no chapter listed for them in the game data.
Chapter 2
Upgrade

Learn: One Handed, One-Hand Smithing
What you learn
- Recommendation One Handed (Level 2) at Scatty 20 LP · 200 ore
- Recommendation One-Hand Smithing (Level 1) at Huno 10 LP · 50 ore
Your equipment

Executioner 65 Damage · Strength 53 Buy from Scorpio (Old Camp)

Butcher 64 Damage · Strength 51 Buy from Scorpio (Old Camp)

Warder's Hand 59 Damage · Strength 49 Buy from Scorpio (Old Camp)

The strongest one-handed weapons you can wield at this chapter's minimum level (level 5: Strength 60) and which a merchant is sure to sell in this chapter. Found items and chests don't count here – there's no chapter listed for them in the game data.

Worth doing additionally in Ch. 2

The Templar's Blade

Quest giver: Stone

Chapter 2 · 500 XP

Stone pays 30, 50 or 70 ore (depending on how the conversation goes).

The Brotherhood's Plan

Quest giver: Raven

Chapter 2 · 500 XP · 100 ore

50 ore for the message of Caine's death, 50 ore in the final report.
Chapter 3
Become a Guard

Required: Joining the Warders · Learn: Two Handed · Armor: Warder's Armor
Your goal in this chapter

Level 10 (27.500 experience) – Thorus will only recruit you after that. Until then, the quests in this chapter grant you 8.250 experience, plus what you get from combat and previous chapters.

So that's where you'll stand · Two Handed only, 10 learning points per level

Calculated is first Strength up to 100, then the skills: weapons require a minimum value in Strength, and you cannot wield them below that. The skills under “What you learn” you learn as soon as learning points are available for them.

Level 10

Chapter 3 · Thorus recruits you from level 10 onwards

Learning points

100 of 100 LP: Strength 100, One Handed 1

Weapon

Revenge Steel92 damage · against Scorpio

Shadow Beast

4 hits until he falls

Withstands

no hits from the Shadow Beast · 160 HP
What you must do
Step 2 · Mandatory · Chapter 3
Joining the Warders

with Thorus, leader of the Warders

Thorus will only recruit you from level 10 onwards (27.500 experience).

“Thorus wants me to watch over a delivery at the exchange point.”

Steps

I must round up three of the Diggers so they can carry the stuff.

I should meet Kirgo at the Exchange.

The delivery must be protected.

I should talk to Thorus.

Teaches you on this path

Two Handed 1–2 70 LP · 500 ore Strength 1 LP per point Dexterity 1 LP per point

Where you need to go

Thorus is at a bench from 7 to 8 and from 22 to 23 o'clock, is at a passage from 8 to 22 o'clock and sleeps from 23 to 7 o'clock.

Old Camp
Thorus at 12 o'clock

World Map
Thorus on the world map

Everything about Thorus ↗
Thorus with his arms crossed in the gate arch, two gate guards on either side
What you learn
- Recommendation Two Handed (Level 1) at Thorus 30 LP · 200 ore
- Recommendation Two Handed (Level 2) at Thorus 40 LP · 300 ore
Additionally for other playstyles
- Recommendation Crossbow (Level 1) at Scorpio for the Crossbow Guard 10 LP · 200 ore
- Recommendation Crossbow (Level 2) at Scorpio for the Crossbow Guard 20 LP · 300 ore
Your equipment

Warder's Armor from “Joining the Warders” Blade 10 · Blunt 10 · Pierce 0
Revenge Steel 92 Damage · Strength 77 Buy from Scorpio (Old Camp)

Wrath Steel 90 Damage · Strength 75 Buy from Scorpio (Old Camp)

Rage Steel 88 Damage · Strength 73 Buy from Scorpio (Old Camp)

The strongest two-handed weapons that you can wield with the minimum level of this chapter (Level 10: Strength 100, One Handed 1) and that a merchant in this chapter reliably sells. Findable items and chests do not count here – they have no chapter designation in the game data.
Worth doing additionally in Ch. 3
The Focus in the Troll Canyon

Quest giver: Milten

Chapter 3 · 3500 XP

Experience upon handing in the focus to Saturas; ore and potions are only given after all Focus Stones have been turned in (quest “The Focus Stones”).

The Focus Below the Stone Circle

Quest giver: Diego

Chapter 3 · 3500 XP

The Rogues' Camp

Quest giver: Thorus

Chapter 3 · 500 XP · 100 ore

Special Pieces

Quest giver: Santino

Chapter 1–3 · 750 XP · 1000 ore

Santino's key

Depending on negotiation, only 500 ore.
Chapter 4
Escape Plan

Your goal in this chapter

Level 15 (60.000 experience) – after joining Thorus. The quests in this chapter together grant 1.500 experience, plus what you get from combat and previous chapters.

So that's where you'll stand · Two Handed only, 10 learning points per level

Calculated is first Strength up to 100, then the skills: weapons require a minimum value in Strength, and you cannot wield them below that. The skills under “What you learn” you learn as soon as learning points are available for them.

Level 15

after joining Thorus

Learning points

150 of 150 LP: Strength 100, One Handed 2, Two Handed 1

Weapon

Revenge Steel92 damage · against Scorpio

Minecrawler Warrior

3 hits until he falls

Withstands

1 hits from the Shadow Beast · 220 HP

Level 20

after joining Thorus

Learning points

190 of 200 LP: Strength 100, One Handed 2, Two Handed 2

Weapon

Revenge Steel92 damage · against Scorpio

Minecrawler Warrior

3 hits until he falls

Withstands

1 hits from the Shadow Beast · 280 HP

Level 25

after joining Thorus

Learning points

190 of 250 LP: Strength 100, One Handed 2, Two Handed 2

Weapon

Revenge Steel92 damage · against Scorpio

Minecrawler Warrior

3 hits until he falls

Withstands

1 hits from the Shadow Beast · 340 HP

Your equipment

Revenge Steel 92 Damage · Strength 77 Buy from Scorpio (Old Camp)

Wrath Steel 90 Damage · Strength 75 Buy from Scorpio (Old Camp)

Rage Steel 88 Damage · Strength 73 Buy from Scorpio (Old Camp)

The strongest two-handed weapons that you can wield with the minimum level of this chapter (Level 10: Strength 100, One Handed 1) and that a merchant in this chapter reliably sells. Findable items and chests do not count here – they have no chapter designation in the game data.

Worth doing additionally in Ch. 4

Escape Plan

Questgiver: Seraphia

Chapter 4 · 1500 XP

Achievement “Outsmarted”.
Chapter 5
Freeing Stone

Armor: Improved Ore Armor
What you learn

Additionally for other playstyles
- Recommendation Two-Hand Smithing (Level 2) at Stone for the Shadow Heir 15 LP · 150 ore
Your equipment

Improved Ore Armor from “Between a Rock and a Hard Place” Blade 100 · Blunt 100 · Pierce 30
Revenge Steel 92 Damage · Strength 77 Buy from Scorpio (Old Camp)

Wrath Steel 90 Damage · Strength 75 Buy from Scorpio (Old Camp)

Rage Steel 88 Damage · Strength 73 Buy from Scorpio (Old Camp)

The strongest two-handed weapons that you can wield with the minimum level of this chapter (Level 10: Strength 100, One Handed 1) and that a merchant in this chapter reliably sells. Findable items and chests do not count here – they have no chapter designation in the game data.
Worth doing additionally in Ch. 5
Between a Rock and a Hard Place

Quest giver: Stone

Chapter 5 · 1000 XP

Improved Ore Armor

Stone will then upgrade your Ancient Ore Armor at Darrion's smithy in the Swamp Camp (waiting time one day). If he sketches the key Sketch, you get an additional 500 experience.

„Recommendation“ means: this is what we suggest. Documented is when it becomes possible – not when you must learn it.

For reference

Everything else for your Guard.

Two Handed, Crossbow or both?

What each path costs in learning points – you get 10 learning points per level.

Two Handed only 190 LP · from level 19
Crossbow only 120 LP · from level 12
Two Handed and Crossbow 310 LP · from level 31

Calculated with the Build Helper using the target values for each path (training to 100, skills at level 2, circles up to the highest teachable), without jewelry and potions.

Learning points and experience per chapter

How much level you need in each chapter and how much of that the quests on this page already give you – the rest you get from combat.

Chapter	Learning points for skills	Minimum level	Experience from quests	From combat
Chapter 1Becoming a Shadow	+10 LPOne Handed 1 · up to here 10 LP – at level 5 remaining 40 LP for attributes	Level 57.500 experience · Gomez will only accept you then	2.050	5.450
Chapter 2Upgrade	+30 LPOne Handed 2, One-Hand Smithing 1 · up to here 40 LP – at level 5 remain 10 LP for attributes	Level 57.500 experience	4.050	3.450
Chapter 3Become a Guard	+70 LPTwo Handed 1, Two Handed 2 · up to here 110 LP – at level 11 remaining 0 LP for attributes	Level 1133.000 experience	12.300	20.700
Chapter 4Escape Plan	none newup to here 110 LP – at level 11 remaining 0 LP for attributes	Level 1133.000 experience	14.500	18.500
Chapter 5Freeing Stone	none newup to here 110 LP – at level 11 remaining 0 LP for attributes	Level 1133.000 experience	15.500	17.500

Learning points count only the skills of the path with fixed costs; attributes cost per point and take what is left over. Experience from quests are all quests on this page up to this chapter combined – the reward of an acceptance quest counts starting from the next chapter, since you only receive it after you already have the level.

All levels at a glance

Which Guard build to wear from which level? Same numbers as on the path, for each level. Per level you get 10 learning points.

Chapter 1: Wolf 80 HP
Chapter 2: Minecrawler 90 HP
Chapter 3: Shadow Beast 400 HP
Chapter 4: Minecrawler Warrior 350 HP

Two Handed only

Level	Learning points	Two-handed weapon	Hits until he falls	Withstands
Level 5Chapter 1–2 · Gomez recruits you from level 5 onwards	Strength 6050 of 50 LP	Mercenary's Blade 73 Damage · Strength 58 at Scorpio	Wolf 1 Hits Minecrawler 2 Hits Shadow Beast 8 Hits Minecrawler Warrior 5 Hits	no hit from the Shadow Beast100 HP
Level 10Chapter 3 · Thorus recruits you from level 10 onwards	Strength 100, One Handed 1100 of 100 LP	Revenge Steel 92 Damage · Strength 77 at Scorpio	Wolf 1 Hits Minecrawler 1 Hits Shadow Beast 4 Hits Minecrawler Warrior 3 Hits	no hit from the Shadow Beast160 HP
Level 15after joining Thorus	Strength 100, One Handed 2, Two Handed 1150 of 150 LP	Revenge Steel 92 Damage · Strength 77 at Scorpio	Wolf 1 Hits Minecrawler 1 Hits Shadow Beast 4 Hits Minecrawler Warrior 3 Hits	1 hits from the Shadow Beast220 HP
Level 20after joining Thorus	Strength 100, One Handed 2, Two Handed 2190 of 200 LP	Revenge Steel 92 Damage · Strength 77 at Scorpio	Wolf 1 Hits Minecrawler 1 Hits Shadow Beast 4 Hits Minecrawler Warrior 3 Hits	1 hits from the Shadow Beast280 HP
Level 25after joining Thorus	Strength 100, One Handed 2, Two Handed 2190 of 250 LP	Revenge Steel 92 Damage · Strength 77 at Scorpio	Wolf 1 Hits Minecrawler 1 Hits Shadow Beast 4 Hits Minecrawler Warrior 3 Hits	1 hits from the Shadow Beast340 HP

One Handed only

Level	Learning points	One Handed weapon	Hits until he falls	Withstands
Level 5Chapter 1–2 · Gomez recruits you from level 5 onwards	Strength 6050 of 50 LP	Executioner 65 Damage · Strength 53 at Scorpio	Wolf 1 Hits Minecrawler 2 Hits Shadow Beast 9 Hits Minecrawler Warrior 5 Hits	no hit from the Shadow Beast100 HP
Level 10Chapter 3 · Thorus recruits you from level 10 onwards	Strength 100, One Handed 1100 of 100 LP	Executioner 65 Damage · Strength 53 at Scorpio	Wolf 1 Hits Minecrawler 1 Hits Shadow Beast 5 Hits Minecrawler Warrior 4 Hits	no hit from the Shadow Beast160 HP
Level 15after joining Thorus	Strength 100, One Handed 2120 of 150 LP	Executioner 65 Damage · Strength 53 at Scorpio	Wolf 1 Hits Minecrawler 1 Hits Shadow Beast 5 Hits Minecrawler Warrior 4 Hits	1 hits from the Shadow Beast220 HP
Level 20after joining Thorus	Strength 100, One Handed 2120 of 200 LP	Executioner 65 Damage · Strength 53 at Scorpio	Wolf 1 Hits Minecrawler 1 Hits Shadow Beast 5 Hits Minecrawler Warrior 4 Hits	1 hits from the Shadow Beast280 HP
Level 25after joining Thorus	Strength 100, One Handed 2120 of 250 LP	Executioner 65 Damage · Strength 53 at Scorpio	Wolf 1 Hits Minecrawler 1 Hits Shadow Beast 5 Hits Minecrawler Warrior 4 Hits	1 hits from the Shadow Beast340 HP

Crossbow only

Level	Learning points	Crossbow	Hits until he falls	Withstands
Level 5Chapter 1–2 · Gomez recruits you from level 5 onwards	Dexterity 6050 out of 50 LP	Light Crossbow 60 Damage · Dexterity 30 at Scorpio	Wolf 1 Hits Minecrawler 2 Hits Shadow Beast 10 Hits Minecrawler Warrior 5 Hits	no hit from the Shadow Beast100 HP
Level 10Chapter 3 · Thorus recruits you from level 10 onwards	Dexterity 100, Crossbow 1100 of 100 LP	Crossbow of War 120 Damage · Dexterity 80 at Scorpio	Wolf 1 Hits Minecrawler 1 Hits Shadow Beast 3 Hits Minecrawler Warrior 2 Hits	no hit from the Shadow Beast160 HP
Level 15after joining Thorus	Dexterity 100, Crossbow 2120 of 150 LP	Crossbow of War 120 Damage · Dexterity 80 at Scorpio	Wolf 1 Hits Minecrawler 1 Hits Shadow Beast 3 Hits Minecrawler Warrior 2 Hits	1 hits from the Shadow Beast220 HP
Level 20after joining Thorus	Dexterity 100, Crossbow 2120 of 200 LP	Crossbow of War 120 Damage · Dexterity 80 at Scorpio	Wolf 1 Hits Minecrawler 1 Hits Shadow Beast 3 Hits Minecrawler Warrior 2 Hits	1 hits from the Shadow Beast280 HP
Level 25after joining Thorus	Dexterity 100, Crossbow 2120 of 250 LP	Crossbow of War 120 Damage · Dexterity 80 at Scorpio	Wolf 1 Hits Minecrawler 1 Hits Shadow Beast 3 Hits Minecrawler Warrior 2 Hits	1 hits from the Shadow Beast340 HP

Two Handed and Crossbow

Level	Learning points	Weapons	Hits until he falls	Withstands
Level 5Chapter 1–2 · Gomez recruits you from level 5 onwards	Strength 30, Dexterity 40 50 of 50 LP	Two Handed Pickaxe 7 Damage · Strength 5 with Alberto, Santino Crossbow Light Crossbow 60 Damage · Dexterity 30 at Scorpio	Wolf 1 Hits Minecrawler 2 Hits Shadow Beast 20 Hits Minecrawler Warrior 6 Hits	no hit from the Shadow Beast100 HP
Level 10Chapter 3 · Thorus recruits you from level 10 onwards	Strength 30, Dexterity 90 100 of 100 LP	Two Handed Pickaxe 7 Damage · Strength 5 with Alberto, Santino Crossbow Crossbow of War 120 Damage · Dexterity 80 at Scorpio	Wolf 1 Hits Minecrawler 1 Hits Shadow Beast 4 Hits Minecrawler Warrior 3 Hits	no hit from the Shadow Beast160 HP
Level 15after joining Thorus	Strength 90, Dexterity 80 150 of 150 LP	Two Handed Revenge Steel 92 Damage · Strength 77 at Scorpio Crossbow Crossbow of War 120 Damage · Dexterity 80 at Scorpio	Wolf 1 Hits Minecrawler 1 Hits Shadow Beast 4 Hits Minecrawler Warrior 3 Hits	1 hits from the Shadow Beast220 HP
Level 20after joining Thorus	Strength 100, Dexterity 100, One Handed 1190 of 200 LP	Two Handed Revenge Steel 92 Damage · Strength 77 at Scorpio Crossbow Crossbow of War 120 Damage · Dexterity 80 at Scorpio	Wolf 1 Hits Minecrawler 1 Hits Shadow Beast 3 Hits Minecrawler Warrior 2 Hits	1 hits from the Shadow Beast280 HP
Level 25after joining Thorus	Strength 100, Dexterity 100, One Handed 2, Two Handed 1, Crossbow 1250 of 250 LP	Two Handed Revenge Steel 92 Damage · Strength 77 at Scorpio Crossbow Crossbow of War 120 Damage · Dexterity 80 at Scorpio	Wolf 1 Hits Minecrawler 1 Hits Shadow Beast 3 Hits Minecrawler Warrior 2 Hits	1 hits from the Shadow Beast340 HP

Calculated with the Build Helper on "Gothic", without jewelry and potions: first the attribute to 100, then the talents in the order of the chapter progression. The calculator only knows the crit chance for talents – combos are not decoded. "Hits" = hits until kill with the stated weapon; the enemies are listed in chapter order; gray = the build doesn't yet carry on this level. A full playthrough was at level 20–28 in Ch. 4.